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BANKNIFTY (banknifty_flattrade_vidya_cross) — daily Renko(2) on NSE_INDEX, Flattrade, ITM1 CE, qty 30:
ENTRY — both must be true at the same time (AND):
1. VIDYA crosses ABOVE anchor
2. VIDYA crosses ABOVE 3-candle value
→ then BUY CE ITM1 (30 qty)
EXIT (exit_priority sltp, TP=0):
- SL ₹1500 loss
- or condition flips (reverse signal) — whichever first
Other constraints:
- start_mode: wait_crossover (no entry until cross happens)
- entry_cutoff 15:20 (no new entries after)
- max_trades 3 per day
- legacy sma/vidya xover fields in the yaml are dead — the conditions block drives it (log confirms "Multi-condition ENTRY")
Today's read: at 09:34 both conditions were true → bought 57800 CE @ 835. At 10:30 condition 1 (VIDYA > anchor) flipped false → that's why there's been no re-entry since the SL exit
2026-08-05 11:00
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
2026-08-05 11:00
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: skill_view]
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{"success": true, "name": "renko-vidya-bot", "description": "Renko VIDYA trading bot system — dashboard, config, signal engine, order placement. Covers architecture, pitfalls, and adding new features.", "tags": [], "related_skills": [], "content": "---\nname: renko-vidya-bot\ndescription: Renko VIDYA trading bot system — dashboard, config, signal engine, order placement. Covers architecture, pitfalls, and adding new features.\ntriggers:\n - renko vidya bot\n - renko-vidya-dashboard\n - bot dashboard\n - symbols.yaml brick_size\n - renko_vidya_bot\n - vidya scanner\n - scanner.py --once\n - live zone\n - dynamic sl\n - rsi 50\n - rsi-cross-target\n - BUY_FUT\n - crudeoilm\n---\n\n# Renko VIDYA Bot System\n\nTrading bot that uses Renko bricks + VIDYA/SMA crossover signals to trade NSE/NSE_INDEX options and MCX futures via OpenAlgo brokers.\n\n> **FUTURES BOTS**: the engine fully supports `instrument: futures` with\n> `BUY_FUT`/`SELL_FUT` actions, `start_mode: start_now` (\"order now if condition\n> holds, else wait for cross\"), MCX auto-cutoff 23:25, positionbook exits.\n> Recipes: `references/futures-bots.md`, live-zone ADVANCE ORDERS → `references/advance-order-live-zone.md`.\n\n## Architecture (Jul 23, 2026 — Stateless Systemd — IMPLEMENTED)\n\n> **NUKED Jul 31, 2026 PM2**: bot.openalgo.theworkpc.com (port 5100) was fully\n> decommissioned — all renko-vidya-bot services stopped + disabled, service files\n> removed from /etc/systemd/system/, dashboard directory
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Verified against the log — your read is right up to 10:46, but it's stale by ~15 min. The bot RE-ENTERED at 10:50 and is currently holding. Full corrected timeline:
1. 09:34:29 — ENTRY BUY 57800 CE @ ₹860.05 (log records 860.05, not 835 — order-confirmed price)
2. 10:27:24 — SL HIT, pnl ₹-2637 ≤ -1500 → SELL @ 725.6, flat
3. 10:27→10:29 — conditions were STILL [✓ ✓] true after the SL exit, but bot logged "Already fired on this composite state — waiting for reset" → re-entry blocked by the fired-latch, not by the signal
4. 10:30 — condition 1 (VIDYA > anchor) flipped [✗ ✓] — this is where your read picks up
5. 10:31→10:49 — flat, no trigger, as you described
6. 10:50:47 — [✓ ✓] again → "Multi-condition ENTRY" — BUY 57700 CE @ ₹914.65, TRADE COUNT 2/3
7. Now (11:01) — still holding BUY_CE 57700, conditions [✓ ✓], mode RUNNING
Two things your recap missed:
A. The re-entry happened after your last check (your session was 10:46, entry was 10:50). Strike shifted 57800→57700 because ITM1 tracks the underlying — spot fell, so ITM1 dropped a strike. The CE costing MORE (914.65 vs 860.05) is consistent: 57700 CE is one strike deeper ITM at the same expiry.
B. The "no re-entry" window had two distinct causes: the fired-latch (10:27-10:29, conditions true but waiting for composite-state reset) and then condition 1 being false (10:30-10:49). The latch only resets when the composite state goes false — which is exactly what the 10:30 flip did, enabling the 10:50 re-fire.
Current live state: fired=2/3 trades, holding 57700 CE qty 30, SL still ₹1500, entry_cutoff 15:20, max_trades 3.
Want me to keep watching it and report when the second trade exits, or is there something else about today's flow you want to dig into?
2026-08-05 11:01
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
i am looking at daily chart -are ypu? second when we have sl of 1500 why i have to take sl 2500+
2026-08-05 11:06
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
Let me look at both — first the bot's SL/PnL computation code (root cause for the 2500+ loss), then pull up the actual daily chart data it's trading on.
2026-08-05 11:07
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: search_files]
{"total_count": 60, "matches_format": "path-grouped: each file path on its own line, followed by indented '<line>: <content>' rows for matches in that file", "matches_text": "/home/ubuntu/bots/tradebot/bot.py\n 20: - NRML only, LIMIT only, 3% buffer on LTP\n 464: underlying_ltp = od.get(\"underlying_ltp\", 0)\n 551: \"\"\"Get option quote (ltp, bid, ask) via quotes API. Options trade on NFO.\n 552: Returns dict {ltp, bid, ask} or None on fetch failure.\n 554: LTP is fallback only (Kotak returns ltp=0 for no-trade strikes).\"\"\"\n 565: \"ltp\": float(d.get(\"ltp\", 0) or 0),\n 639: self.sl_inr = self.cfg[\"sl_inr\"]\n 700: # Exit priority: \"sltp\" (default) = hold position until SL/TP hit;\n 703: self.exit_priority = (self.cfg.get(\"exit_priority\", \"sltp\") or \"sltp\").lower()\n 704: if self.exit_priority not in (\"signal\", \"sltp\"):\n 705: self.exit_priority = \"sltp\"\n 720: self.current_pnl = 0.0 # updated each poll\n 915: Also captures entry_price and current_pnl from the position book.\n 943: total_pnl = 0.0\n 953: # Try broker pnl first, then compute from entry + LTP\n 954: broker_pnl = p.get(\"pnl\")\n 955: if broker_pnl is not None:\n 956: total_pnl += float(broker_pnl)\n 958: # Kotak doesn't return pnl — compute manually\n 960: ltp = p.get(\"ltp\", 0) or 0\n 961: if not ltp:\n 962: ltp = self._fetch_ltp_for_position(p.get(\"symbol\", \"\"), p.get(\"exchange\", \"\"))\n 963: if entry > 0 and ltp > 0:\n 965: total_pnl += (ltp - entry) * abs(qty)\n 967: total_pnl += (entry - ltp) * abs(qty)\n 973: self.current_pnl = total_pnl\n 1011: self.current_pnl = 0.0\n 1034: self._capture_pnl(p)\n 1039: self.current_pnl = 0.0\n 1104: def _capture_pnl(self, p):\n 1107: - Flattrade/Shoonya: return 'pnl' and 'avg_price' fields\n 1108: - Kotak: returns 'average_price' (NOT 'avg_price') and NO 'pnl' field.\n 1109: When broker doesn't return pnl, compute manually from entry price + current quote.\n 1122: # P&L: try broker-provided pnl first, then compute manually\n 1123: broker_pnl = p.get(\"pnl\")\n 1124: if broker_pnl is not None:\n 1126: self.current_pnl = float(broker_pnl)\n 1131: # Broker doesn't return pnl (Kotak) — compute from entry + current LTP\n 1132: # LTP may be in the position row itself, or we fetch from quotes API\n 1133: ltp = p.get(\"ltp\", 0) or 0\n 1134: if not ltp:\n 1137:
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Found the SL mechanics. Let me now find the chart API so we're both looking at the same daily chart.
2026-08-05 11:08
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: search_files]
{"total_count": 20, "matches_format": "path-grouped: each file path on its own line, followed by indented '<line>: <content>' rows for matches in that file", "matches_text": "/home/ubuntu/bots/tradebot/bot.py\n 8: - ALL computed values come from the chart API (127.0.0.1:5050)\n 9: - Bot NEVER self-computes indicators. It reads raw values and detects\n 94: # Indicator field name mapping: config name → /api/indicators response key\n 111: def fetch_indicators(symbol, exchange=\"NSE\", timeframe=\"5m\", source=\"candles\",\n 113: \"\"\"Fetch indicator values from chart API /api/indicators endpoint.\n 123: f\"{CHART_API}/api/indicators/{symbol}\",\n 132: tlog.error(f\"Chart API indicators fetch failed for {symbol}: {e}\")\n 137: \"\"\"Fetch daily-vidya (LIPI line) from chart API. Returns list of rows.\"\"\"\n 165: def fetch_3candle_data(symbol, exchange=\"NSE\"):\n 166: \"\"\"Fetch the 3-candle fractal analysis dict from the chart API\n 167: (/api/3candle-analysis — last 3 COMPLETED daily candles, Day-4 forecast),\n 171: f\"{CHART_API}/api/3candle-analysis/{symbol}\",\n 183: def fetch_3candle_bias(symbol, exchange=\"NSE\"):\n 186: d = fetch_3candle_data(symbol, exchange)\n 195: # ── Daily OHLC (daily candle — what the chart draws) ─────────────────────────\n 204: \"\"\"Fetch daily OHLC candles from chart API /api/<symbol>?interval=D.\n 206: failure. Same data the chart's daily candle draws (what I see is what I get).\"\"\"\n 256: 'normal' daily move, from the same daily candles the chart draws.\"\"\"\n 279: Extract a named series value from the /api/indicators response.\n 282: For 'anchor' / 'lipi': fetch from daily-vidya (last completed day)."}
2026-08-05 11:08
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
Let me pull the actual daily chart state from the chart API so we're looking at the same thing, and check the morning price action that caused the overshoot.
2026-08-05 11:08
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: terminal]
{"output": "<!doctype html>\n<html lang=en>\n<title>405 Method Not Allowed</title>\n<h1>Method Not Allowed</h1>\n<p>The method is not allowed for the requested URL.</p>\n\n===\n{\"count\":4,\"data\":[{\"close\":57214.1,\"high\":57411.25,\"low\":57139.6,\"open\":57242.0,\"timestamp\":1785436200,\"ts\":\"2026-07-31\",\"volume\":0},{\"close\":58247.95,\"high\":58247.95,\"low\":57465.95,\"open\":57590.5,\"timestamp\":1785695400,\"ts\":\"2026-08-03\",\"volume\":0},{\"close\":57907.2,\"high\":57926.45,\"low\":57352.65,\"open\":57873.4,\"timestamp\":1785781800,\"ts\":\"2026-08-04\",\"volume\":0},{\"close\":57845.85,\"high\":57931.85,\"low\":57593.9,\"open\":57778.3,\"timestamp\":1785868200,\"ts\":\"2026-08-05\",\"volume\":0}],\"end_date\":\"2026-08-05\",\"exchange\":\"NSE\",\"interval\":\"D\",\"source\":\"chart_db_aggregated\",\"start_date\":\"2026-07-31\",\"status\":\"success\",\"symbol\":\"BANKNIFTY\"}", "exit_code": 0, "error": null}
2026-08-05 11:08
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
2026-08-05 11:08
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: read_file]
{"content": "94|# Indicator field name mapping: config name → /api/indicators response key\n95|INDICATOR_FIELDS = {\n96| \"sma\": \"sma20\",\n97| \"sma20\": \"sma20\",\n98| \"sma50\": \"sma50\",\n99| \"vidya\": \"vidya\",\n100| \"price\": \"price\",\n101| \"rsi\": \"rsi\",\n102| \"macd\": \"macd\",\n103| \"macd_signal\": \"macd_signal\",\n104| \"macd_hist\": \"macd_hist\",\n105| \"atr\": \"atr\",\n106| \"stoch_k\": \"stoch_k\",\n107| \"stoch_d\": \"stoch_d\",\n108|}\n109|\n110|\n111|def fetch_indicators(symbol, exchange=\"NSE\", timeframe=\"5m\", source=\"candles\",\n112| brick_size=2.0, days=None):\n113| \"\"\"Fetch indicator values from chart API /api/indicators endpoint.\n114| Supports any timeframe (5m, 15m, 30m, 1h, 2h, D) and source (candles, renko).\n115| Returns dict or None.\"\"\"\n116| try:\n117| params = {\n118| \"exchange\": exchange,\n119| \"source\": source,\n120| \"interval\": timeframe,\n121| }\n122| r = requests.get(\n123| f\"{CHART_API}/api/indicators/{symbol}\",\n124| params=params,\n125| timeout=10,\n126| )\n127| d = r.json()\n128| if d.get(\"status\") == \"success\":\n129| return d\n130| except Exception as e:\n131| tlog = _make_logger(\"tradebot_err\", \"tradebot_error.log\")\n132| tlog.error(f\"Chart API indicators fetch failed for {symbol}: {e}\")\n133| return None\n134|\n135|\n136|def fetch_daily_vidya(symbol, exchange=\"NSE\"):\n137| \"\"\"Fetch daily-vidya (LIPI line) from chart API. Returns list of rows.\"\"\"\n138| try:\n139| r = requests.get(\n140| f\"{CHART_API}/api/daily-vidya/{symbol}\",\n141| params={\"exchange\": exchange},\n142| timeout=10,\n143| )\n144| d = r.json()\n145| if d.get(\"status\") == \"success\":\n146| return d.get(\"data\", [])\n147| except Exception:\n148| pass\n149| return []\n150|\n151|\n152|# 3-candle fractal bias score: -1 (strong bearish) … +1 (strong bullish).\n153|# REVERSAL_* count as directional (0.75) — a reversal signal is a tradeable\n154|", "total_lines": 2833, "file_size": 136898, "truncated": true, "hint": "Use offset=154 to continue reading (showing 94-153 of 2833 lines)", "is_binary": false, "is_image": false}
2026-08-05 11:08
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: terminal]
{"output": "<!doctype html>\n<html lang=en>\n<title>405 Method Not Allowed</title>\n<h1>Method Not Allowed</h1>\n<p>The method is not allowed for the requested URL.</p>\n\n===\n47: load_single_config, CHART_API, BROKER_URLS, BROKER_API_KEYS,\n123: f\"{CHART_API}/api/indicators/{symbol}\",\n140: f\"{CHART_API}/api/daily-vidya/{symbol}\",\n171: f\"{CHART_API}/api/3candle-analysis/{symbol}\",\n209: f\"{CHART_API}/api/{symbol}\",", "exit_code": 0, "error": null}
[Tool: search_files]
{"total_count": 30, "matches_format": "path-grouped: each file path on its own line, followed by indented '<line>: <content>' rows for matches in that file", "matches_text": "/home/ubuntu/bots/tradebot/bot.py\n 282: For 'anchor' / 'lipi': fetch from daily-vidya (last completed day).\n 291: if field in (\"anchor\", \"lipi\"):\n 304: if field in (\"3candle_bias\", \"3candle_value\"):\n 621: self.signal_b = self.cfg[\"signal_b\"]\n 625: # When non-zero, overrides signal_b indicator. 0/None = use indicator.\n 627: # Multi-condition engine (visual builder): list of {signal_a, signal_b,\n 630: # single condition (signal_a/signal_b/condition above).\n 740: f\"signal={self.signal_a} {self.condition} {self.signal_b}\"\n 864: sb = f.get(\"signal_b\", \"value\")\n 894: \"\"\"Fetch current values for signal_a and signal_b from chart API /api/indicators.\"\"\"\n 905: # Also, if threshold is non-zero, it overrides any signal_b\n 906: if self.signal_b == \"value\" or (self.threshold and self.threshold != 0):\n 909: val_b = extract_signal_value(sig, self.signal_b, self.symbol, self.exchange)\n 1489: def _enter_multi_leg(self, direction, reason=\"\"):\n 1559: def _exit_multi_leg(self):\n 2271: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} > {self.signal_b} (start_now state)\")\n 2273: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} < {self.signal_b} (start_now state)\")\n 2280: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} crossed above {self.signal_b}\")\n 2282: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} crossed below {self.signal_b}\")\n 2290: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} < {self.signal_b} (start_now state)\")\n 2292: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} > {self.signal_b} (start_now state)\")\n 2299: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} crossed above {self.signal_b}\")\n 2301: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} crossed below {self.signal_b}\")\n 2307: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} > {self.signal_b}\")\n 2308: return (None, f\"{self.signal_a} not > {self.signal_b}\")\n 2313: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} < {self.signal_b}\")\n 2314: return (None, f\"{self.signal_a} not < {self.signal_b}\")\n 2319: return (\"CE\", f\"{self.signal_a} > {self.signal_b} by {pct}% (thr={threshold:.2f})\")\n 2320: return (None, f\"{self.signal_a} not > {self.signal_b} by {pct}% (thr={threshold:.2f})\")\n 2325: return (\"PE\", f\"{self.signal_a} < {self.signal_b} by {pct}% (thr={threshold:.2f})\")"}
2026-08-05 11:09
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
Both answered from the same data the bot trades on. First, yes — I pulled the exact daily chart the bot reads (chart API 127.0.0.1:5050, same endpoints):
DAILY CHART (current state)
- 07-31: bear day C 57214
- 08-03: strong bull, close at high 58248
- 08-04: bull, C 57907
- 08-05 (in progress): O 57778, H 57932, L 57594, C 57846 — bearish day
- VIDYA (renko D): 57890.34 — ABOVE anchor (daily-vidya last completed day 08-04: 57859.89) and above 3-candle value → both conditions TRUE again right now, which is why the bot is in trade 2 holding 57700 CE
Now the ₹1500 vs ₹2500+ question — root cause found, and it's the poll design, not the strategy:
1. The ₹1500 SL is NOT a broker-side stop. It's a soft check once per poll: every 60s the bot reads position-book pnl and compares (bot.py:2229-2230). Nothing is parked at the broker.
2. The smoking gun in the log: 10:26:24 poll → "no action" (pnl was above -1500, no trigger). 10:27:24 poll → pnl already -2637. The ENTIRE overshoot happened inside one 60-second window.
3. What moved: your fills were BUY 57800 CE @ 835.0, exit SELL @ 751.1 → realized loss 30 × (835-751.1) = ₹2517. The -1500 trigger level = premium at 785 (835 − 50pts). By the time the poll fired, premium was ~747 — the CE dropped 38+ points in under a minute. On 30 qty, 1 premium point = ₹30, so 50 points = the whole ₹1500 budget. A 100-point index drop in a minute wipes the entire SL in one poll gap.
4. Note the recorded pnl (-2637) is broker position-book pnl at check time; the actual fill was better (751.1 vs the 725.6 limit placed) → realized ₹2517.
So: 1500 is the trigger, but you always pay "whatever the option did in the last ≤60s" on top. Two ways to close that gap:
A. Tighten POLL_INTERVAL for this bot (60s → 15s) — caps overshoot to one 15s move instead of a 60s move. Small change in config.py, needs bot restart.
B. Park a real broker SL-M order at entry (Flattrade supports stop-loss orders; the exit logic keeps running as backup). Hard stop, no poll gap — but on Shoonya the gateway converts SL-M→SL-LMT with ±34 protection, and it ties up the position book.
C. Accept it as designed: on a 30-qty CE, ₹1500 is a tight budget — one fast minute is inherently ~₹1100+ of slippage risk at 60s polling.
Which way do you want to go — faster polling, broker-side stop, or keep as-is? And is the daily-chart read above matching what you see on your screen?
2026-08-05 11:10
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
tell me you keep rsnting sbout 60 sec - check logs wha price did between 1500 and 2500 - you telling me this gap happened in 60 secs - i dont think so
2026-08-05 11:16
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
Fair challenge — let me get the actual price path of the 57800 CE between 10:00 and 10:27 instead of assuming. Checking the option's candles and every price line the bot logged.
[Tool: terminal]
{"output": "{\"count\":0,\"data\":[],\"exchange\":\"NFO\",\"message\":\"No local data for BANKNIFTY25AUG2657800CE (interval=5m). Run central_data_filler.py or /api/5min-fill/BANKNIFTY25AUG2657800CE to populate.\",\"status\":\"no_data\",\"symbol\":\"BANKNIFTY25AUG2657800CE\"}", "exit_code": 0, "error": null}
2026-08-05 11:16
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
The option has no chart data locally — let me check the code path (when pnl is actually captured each poll) and the underlying index's 5-min path around 10:20-10:27 to settle this properly.
2026-08-05 11:16
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: read_file]
{"content": "2486| \"\"\"Main poll logic — called every POLL_INTERVAL seconds.\n2487|\n2488| BROKER IS GROUND TRUTH: every poll checks broker position book first.\n2489| Internal state (self.current_position) is ONLY for carry-over awareness.\n2490| The actual position is always what the broker says.\n2491|\n2492| Bot types:\n2493| - buy_exit: signal → enter, reverse signal → exit to flat, SL/TP → exit to flat\n2494| - reversal: signal → enter, reverse signal → flip (exit+enter opposite), SL/TP → exit to flat\n2495| - one_time: fire one signal → enter → stop\n2496|\n2497| Manual sq-off guard:\n2498| If bot fired on this state (e.g. RSI < 55) and broker says flat (user squared off),\n2499| do NOT re-enter. Wait for condition to reset (RSI >= 55) then go below again.\n2500| \"\"\"\n2501| # 0. Sync position from broker EVERY poll (truth source)\n2502| # Per section 5: if fetch fails, skip the entire poll\n2503| if not self._check_broker_position():\n2504| return # position unknown — no entries, exits, or SL/TP checks\n2505|\n2506| # Advance-order mode: park/re-park the resting BUY LIMIT / SELL stop at\n2507| # the live RSI-50 target. Runs before SL/TP and condition logic so the\n2508| # broker-side orders are always current for this poll.\n2509| if self.advance_order:\n2510| self._manage_advance_orders()\n2511| self._startnow_entry = False # start_now buy only allowed on first poll\n2512|\n2513| # One-time bot: if already done, just check SL/TP and return\n2514| if self.bot_type == \"one_time\" and self._one_time_done:\n2515| if self.current_position:\n2516| self._check_sl_tp()\n2517| return\n2518|\n2519| # 1. Check SL/TP on any open position first\n2520| if self.current_position:\n2521| if self._check_sl_tp():\n2522| # SL/TP hit — position closed. Broker already synced.\n2523| # For all bot types, SL/TP exits to flat. Wait for next signal.\n2524| pass\n2525|\n2526| # Multi-condition engine (visual builder): branch entirely.\n2527| # Composite true → conditions_action entry; composite false while\n2528| # holding → square off. SL/TP above still applies.\n2529| if self.is_multi:\n2530| cond_vals, sig = self._get_multi_signal_values()\n2531| if cond_vals is None:\n2532| self.log.warning(\"No multi-condition signal data — skipping poll\")\n2533| return\n2534| self._check_multi_conditions(cond_vals)\n2535| return\n2536|\n2537| val_a, val_b, sig = self._get_signal_values()\n2538| if val_a is None or val_b is None:\n2539| self.log.warning(f\"No signal data — a={val_a} b={val_b}\")\n2540| return\n2541|\n2542|
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The timestamps need re-checking (my +5.5h conversion double-shifted). Let me redo it correctly and also pull the option's own historical path from the broker — that settles whether the fall really was 60s or gradual.
2026-08-05 11:17
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: terminal]
{"output": "<string>:6: DeprecationWarning: datetime.datetime.utcfromtimestamp() is deprecated and scheduled for removal in a future version. Use timezone-aware objects to represent datetimes in UTC: datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp(timestamp, datetime.UTC).", "exit_code": 0, "error": null, "approval": "Command was flagged (Security scan — [HIGH] Pipe to interpreter: curl | python3: Command pipes output from 'curl' directly to interpreter 'python3'. Downloaded content will be executed without inspection.\n Safer: tirith run http://127.0.0.1:5050/api/BANKNIFTY?interval=5m&exchange=NSE_INDEX&limit=300 — or: vet http://127.0.0.1:5050/api/BANKNIFTY?interval=5m&exchange=NSE_INDEX&limit=300 (https://getvet.sh); script execution via -e/-c flag) and auto-approved by smart approval."}
2026-08-05 11:17
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-flash)
[Tool: tool_describe]
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You're right to make me prove it — here's the actual price path of the 57800 CE from Flattrade's own candle data (not the index), with the bot's poll times overlaid:
PRICE PATH (57800 CE, 5-min candles, IST)
- 10:15 close 830.3
- 10:20 close 831.45 (H 850, L 829.5) ← pnl ≈ -106
- 10:25-10:30 candle: OPEN 827, HIGH 830.55, LOW 731, CLOSE 746.15 ← the crash
- 10:30 close 747.35 (L 700)
- 10:35 close 762.6, then recovery: 776, 815 at 10:45
THE MATH
- Your entry: 835.0
- SL trigger (-1500) = premium 785 (835 − 50)
- SL detected (-2637) = premium 747.1 (835 − 87.9)
THE POLL BRACKET (from the log)
1. 10:26:24 — poll runs, "no action" → premium was still ABOVE 785 (pnl > -1500)
2. 10:27:24 — poll runs, SL HIT at -2637 → premium ~747
So the 785 → 747 portion (the ₹1137 overshoot) genuinely landed inside the 60.5 seconds between those two polls. The candle proves it: the 10:25-10:30 bar opened at 827 and printed a low of 731 — a ~100-point crash in 5 minutes, with the last ~40 points happening in that single poll gap. The 10:26:24 poll caught the price just before the waterfall, the 10:27:24 poll caught the bottom.
And the exit made it worse in a different way: the SELL limit (bid 748.05 × 0.97 = 725.6) sat below the market as it was BOTTOMING, and you filled at 751.1 on the bounce. Realized = 30 × (835 − 751.1) = ₹2517.
So yes — it really did happen in ~60 seconds. This wasn't a slow bleed the bot ignored; it was a violent crash candle that blew through both levels inside one poll interval. That's the design flaw: soft SL checked once per minute + LTP-based pnl + a crashing option = you always eat the worst minute.
The second SL (11:10, 57700 CE) confirms the pattern: only ₹136 overshoot that time, because that crash was gentler.
Fix options, in order of how much slippage they cut: 1) broker-side SL-M order parked at entry (hard stop, zero poll gap), 2) poll every 15s instead of 60s (caps overshoot to a 15s move), 3) accept it as the cost of 60s polling. Which one do you want?