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2026-04-29 05:43:59 83 messages hermes-20260429_1057...
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
i got disconnrcted but were building the new bot .. any ckue
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "new bot building", "results": [{"session_id": "20260424_165706_f61f07", "when": "April 24, 2026 at 04:58 PM", "source": "cli", "model": "minimax/minimax-m2.7", "summary": "[Raw preview — summarization unavailable]\n[USER]: please go through both bots - also go throuhgh checklist - in bots look at the nuamces and start asking me question as we are building new bot\n\n[ASSISTANT]: [Called: search_files, search_files]\n\n[ASSISTANT]: Let me find both bots and the checklist first.\n\n[TOOL]: {\"total_count\": 50, \"files\": [\"/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/logs/claude_bot_20260423.log\", \"/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/logs/claude_bot_20260422.log\", \"/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/__pycache__/lt_3candle_bot.cpython-313.p\n…[truncated]"}, {"session_id": "20260428_201738_9ca38d", "when": "April 28, 2026 at 08:18 PM", "source": "cli", "model": "minimax/minimax-m2.7", "summary": "[Raw preview — summarization unavailable]\n[USER]: hi can you restart both bots\n\n[ASSISTANT]: [Called: terminal]\n\n[ASSISTANT]: Restarting both bots now.\n\n[TOOL]: {\"output\": \"Both bots restarted\\n● claude_bot.service - Claude_bot Trading Agent\\n Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/claude_bot.service; enabled; preset: enabled)\\n Active: active (running) since Tue 2026-04-28 20:18:24 IST; 1s ago\\n Invocation: bdce71b29c554ca4ba27b74fa60475a9\\n Main PID: 2143366 (python3)\\n Tasks: 6 (limit: 13960)\\n Memory: 82.2M (peak: 82\n…[truncated]"}, {"session_id": "20260422_211900_55b686", "when": "April 22, 2026 at 09:19 PM", "source": "cli", "model": "Hermes-4-405B", "summary": "[Raw preview — summarization unavailable]\n...[earlier conversation truncated]...\n\n 168| return now.replace(hour=boundary // 60, minute=boundary % 60, second=0, microsecond=0)\\n 169|\\n 170|def is_market_open():\\n 171| now = dt.now()\\n 172| if now.weekday() >= 5:\\n 173| return False\\n 174| if now.strftime(\\\"%Y-%m-%d\\\") in NSE_HOLIDAYS_2026:\\n 175| return False\\n 176| return MARKET_OPEN <= now.time() <= MARKET_CLOSE\\n 177|\\n 178|def get_window():\\n 179| \\\"\\\"\\\"Current order window: 1, 2\n…[truncated]"}], "count": 3, "sessions_searched": 3}
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me pull up the session from April 24 and also check current state.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "new bot strategy checklist requirements Claude_bot lt_3candle", "results": [], "count": 0, "message": "No matching sessions found."}
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"content": " 1|# Trading Strategy Audit Checklist\n 2|\n 3|## Pre-Deployment Verification for Algorithmic Trading Strategies\n 4|\n 5|---\n 6|\n 7|## 1. POSITION MANAGEMENT\n 8|\n 9|| Check | Status | Notes |\n 10||-------|--------|-------|\n 11|| [ ] Max position size defined and enforced | | |\n 12|| [ ] Lot size correctly configured | | |\n 13|| [ ] Position limit check before every entry | | |\n 14|| [ ] Cannot exceed max lots under any scenario | | |\n 15|| [ ] Position reconciliation with broker | | |\n 16|| [ ] Handles partial fills correctly | | |\n 17|\n 18|---\n 19|\n 20|## 2. ORDER EXECUTION\n 21|\n 22|| Check | Status | Notes |\n 23||-------|--------|-------|\n 24|| [ ] Order fill verification after placement | | |\n 25|| [ ] Retry logic for failed quotes | | |\n 26|| [ ] Fallback for LTP fetch failures | | |\n 27|| [ ] Limit price buffer appropriate (not too tight/loose) | | |\n 28|| [ ] Correct exchange specified (NSE/NFO/BSE) | | |\n 29|| [ ] Correct product type (NRML/MIS/CNC) | | |\n 30|| [ ] Order response validation | | |\n 31|| [ ] No orders placed with price = 0 | | |\n 32|\n 33|---\n 34|\n 35|## 3. SYMBOL & INSTRUMENT\n 36|\n 37|| Check | Status | Notes |\n 38||-------|--------|-------|\n 39|| [ ] Symbol format matches broker expectation | | |\n 40|| [ ] Expiry date correctly formatted | | |\n 41|| [ ] Strike selection logic correct (ATM/ITM/OTM) | | |\n 42|| [ ] Strike step size accurate for instrument | | |\n 43|| [ ] Underlying symbol correct | | |\n 44|| [ ] Fallback symbol construction tested | | |\n 45|\n 46|---\n 47|\n 48|## 4. RISK CONTROLS\n 49|\n 50|| Check | Status | Notes |\n 51||-------|--------|-------|\n 52|| [ ] Stop loss logic implemented | | |\n 53|| [ ] SL checked on every tick/interval | | |\n 54|| [ ] Max trades per day enforced | | |\n 55|| [ ] Daily loss limit (if applicable) | | |\n 56|| [ ] No naked short positions possible | | |\n 57|| [ ] Exit logic on trend reversal | | |\n 58|| [ ] Emergency exit capability | | |\n 59|\n 60|---\n 61|\n 62|## 5. STATE MANAGEMENT\n 63|\n 64|**Preferred approach**: No state file. Session RAM only. Broker positionbook is truth (see Section 6).\n 65|If a state file IS used, every item below becomes a risk to audit carefully.\n 66|\n 67|| Check | Status | Notes |\n 68||-------|--------|-------|\n 69|| [ ] **If state file used**: can it go stale across days? | | Stale anchor caused wrong trade 2026-03-27 |\n 70|| [ ] **If state file used**: is date checked and reset daily? | | |\n 71|| [ ] **If state file used**: is it reconciled with broker on startup? | | |\n 72|| [ ] Session-only RAM (prev_ltp, skip flags) resets cleanly on restart | | Never persisted |\n 73|| [ ] Daily counters reset correctly | | |\n 74|| [ ] No state corruption on crash ... [15516 chars total, truncated]
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me pull up the April 24 session and also check for any new bot drafts.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "building new bot strategy checklist questions Claude_bot lt_3candle nuances", "results": [], "count": 0, "message": "No matching sessions found."}
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me check the April 24 session more closely and look at both bot design docs.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"content": " 1|# Working Strategy: Monday SMMA + RSI Dual-Filter\n 2|\n 3|**File:** `unified_strategy.py`\n 4|**Config:** `config.py`\n 5|**Service:** `claude_bot`\n 6|**Last Updated:** 2026-04-13 (v9)\n 7|\n 8|---\n 9|\n 10|## Strategy Overview\n 11|\n 12|A dual-filter options trading strategy combining:\n 13|- **SMMA(2)** calculated on daily **OPEN** prices, locked every Monday for the whole week\n 14|- **RSI(20)** calculated on **LOW** prices of 5-min candles (fast momentum line)\n 15|- **RSI(120)** calculated on **HIGH** prices of 5-min candles (slow trend line)\n 16|\n 17|Both filters must agree for a trade entry. Either filter turning unfavorable exits the trade.\n 18|\n 19|---\n 20|\n 21|## Instruments\n 22|\n 23|| Profile | Broker | Futures Symbol | Expiry | Strike Step | Lot Size |\n 24||---------|--------|---------------|--------|-------------|----------|\n 25|| DLF_SMMA | FLATTRADE | DLF28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 10 | 825 |\n 26|| HAL_SMMA | FLATTRADE | HAL28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 50 | 150 |\n 27|| INFY_SMMA | SHOONYA | INFY28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 20 | 400 |\n 28|| INDUSINDBK_SMMA | SHOONYA | INDUSINDBK28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 10 | 700 |\n 29|\n 30|- **Options:** 1 ITM, NRML product, LIMIT orders only\n 31|- **Max lots:** 1 per profile\n 32|- **Combined cap:** 2 lots across both bots (SMMA bot + bespoke bot)\n 33|\n 34|---\n 35|\n 36|## SMMA Calculation\n 37|\n 38|```\n 39|SMMA(2) on daily OPEN prices\n 40|SMMA(t) = (SMMA(t-1) × (period−1) + open(t)) / period\n 41|```\n 42|\n 43|- Calculated **Monday at 9:16 AM** using last 15 days of daily candles\n 44|- Locked for the **entire week** — does not change until next Monday\n 45|- Persisted to state file — survives restarts\n 46|- On mid-week startup: recalculated but locked as the week's value\n 47|\n 48|---\n 49|\n 50|## RSI Calculation (Wilder Smoothing)\n 51|\n 52|```\n 53|RSI(20) → calculated on LOW prices of 5-min candles\n 54|RSI(120) → calculated on HIGH prices of 5-min candles\n 55|```\n 56|\n 57|- Fetches last 7 days of 5-min candles every **5 minutes**\n 58|- Minimum 122 candles required before RSI is valid\n 59|- Uses Wilder smoothing (not simple EMA)\n 60|- **RSI20 > RSI120** → bullish momentum\n 61|- **RSI20 < RSI120** → bearish momentum\n 62|\n 63|---\n 64|\n 65|## Entry Logic\n 66|\n 67|**Two independent triggers — either can fire if the other is already favorable:**\n 68|\n 69|### Trigger A — SMMA Crossover (checked every 1 min)\n 70|| Crossover | RSI condition | Action |\n 71||-----------|--------------|--------|\n 72|| LTP crosses **above** SMMA | RSI20 currently **>** RSI120 | BUY CALL (1 ITM CE) |\n 73|| LTP crosses **below** SMMA | RSI20 currently **<** RSI120 | BUY PUT (1 ITM PE) |\n 74|\n 75|### Trigger B — RSI Crossover (checked every 5 min ... [4591 chars total, truncated]
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"content": " 1|# VIDYA Renko 2-Candle Trading Bot — Design Document\n 2|\n 3|> **Status**: Active — Built 2026-03-25, updated to 2-candle strategy 2026-03-26\n 4|> **Symbol**: LT (Larsen & Toubro) — futures `LT30MAR26FUT`, options `LT30MAR26{STRIKE}{CE/PE}`\n 5|> **Lot size**: 175 (configurable)\n 6|\n 7|---\n 8|\n 9|## 1. Overview\n 10|\n 11|A **trend-following options bot** that:\n 12|- Uses **daily 5-brick Renko** to determine intraday bias (GREEN/RED) at BOD\n 13|- Monitors **2-consecutive 15-min candles** for entry signals\n 14|- Trades **1 ATM option lot** per order with **Rs 1000 max loss** per position\n 15|- Enforces **2 orders per direction per 3-hour fixed window**\n 16|- Runs on **Flattrade** (OpenAlgo backend)\n 17|\n 18|---\n 19|\n 20|## 2. Daily Bias — VIDYA Calculation\n 21|\n 22|### 2.1 At Market Open (9:15 IST)\n 23|\n 24|1. Fetch **previous day's daily candle** close price\n 25|2. Build **daily Renko 5-brick** (same brick size as HAL VIDYA bot):\n 26| - Brick size = 5 bricks × instrument tick size\n 27| - Calculate VIDYA value = N-1 brick close\n 28|3. Compare **current futures price** vs VIDYA value:\n 29| - Price **> VIDYA** → **GREEN** (bullish bias) → monitor for CALL entries\n 30| - Price **< VIDYA** → **RED** (bearish bias) → monitor for PUT entries\n 31|4. VIDYA color is **fixed for the entire trading day** — not recalculated intraday\n 32|\n 33|### 2.2 VIDYA Formula\n 34|\n 35|Same as existing HAL VIDYA bot — close-based Renko (not HL-based):\n 36|\n 37|```\n 38|Brick direction = SIGN(close - previous_brick_close)\n 39|New brick when |close - brick_open| >= brick_size\n 40|VIDYA = N-1 brick close\n 41|```\n 42|\n 43|---\n 44|\n 45|## 3. Candle Data Management\n 46|\n 47|### 3.1 Local SQLite DB\n 48|\n 49|- Store **5-min candles** in local SQLite DB\n 50|- **Build 15-min candles** from 3 × 5-min candles locally\n 51|- Avoid broker API calls for historical data on every poll\n 52|\n 53|### 3.2 Candle Build Schedule\n 54|\n 55|- Poll every **5 minutes** for new 5-min candle data\n 56|- Every 3rd 5-min candle = 1 completed **15-min candle** (append to DB)\n 57|- After 3 consecutive 15-min candles complete → ready to evaluate entry\n 58|\n 59|### 3.3 Incremental Pattern (API load reduction)\n 60|\n 61|- **Startup**: Full fetch of historical 5-min candles (lookback TBD)\n 62|- **Runtime**: Fetch only last 5-min candle from broker → append to DB → build 15-min when 3 × 5-min are complete\n 63|- **In-progress candle excluded** from indicator calculations\n 64|\n 65|### 3.4 Data Source Split (2026-04-13)\n 66|\n 67|**Kotak is used for live trading only** (quotes, orders, positions). It does not have a candle history API.\n 68|\n 69|**Flattrade is used for all historical candle data:**\n 70|- Daily OHLC fo ... [4797 chars total, truncated]
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"content": " 1|# Trading Bots Comparison: Claude_Bot vs 3Candle_Bot\n 2|\n 3|## Executive Summary\n 4|\n 5|Two **completely different** trading bots run simultaneously on the VPS:\n 6|\n 7|1. **Claude_Bot** (SMMA + RSI strategy) — Multi-profile, swing/intraday\n 8|2. **3Candle_Bot** (Renko VIDYA strategy) — Single symbol focus, strict pattern\n 9|\n 10|They operate independently with different brokers, symbols, timeframes, and entry logics.\n 11|\n 12|---\n 13|\n 14|## BOT 1: CLAUDE_BOT (SMMA + RSI Strategy)\n 15|\n 16|### 📌 Overview\n 17|- **Type**: Multi-profile swing/intraday trading bot\n 18|- **Strategy**: Monday SMMA(2) locked weekly + RSI(20/120) dual-filter\n 19|- **Status**: ACTIVE (running as claude_bot service)\n 20|- **Code**: `/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/unified_strategy.py` (2,267 lines)\n 21|- **Config**: `/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/config.py`\n 22|- **Service File**: `/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/claude_bot.service`\n 23|\n 24|### 🎯 Instruments (4 profiles)\n 25|\n 26|| Profile | Broker | Symbol | Expiry | Lot | Strike Step | Status |\n 27||---------|--------|--------|--------|-----|-------------|--------|\n 28|| DLF_SMMA | FLATTRADE | DLF28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 825 | ±10 | ✓ Active |\n 29|| HAL_SMMA | FLATTRADE | HAL28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 150 | ±50 | ❌ Disabled (moved to Renko) |\n 30|| INFY_SMMA | SHOONYA | INFY28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 400 | ±20 | ✓ Active |\n 31|| INDUSINDBK_SMMA | SHOONYA | INDUSINDBK28APR26FUT | 28APR26 | 700 | ±10 | ✓ Active |\n 32|\n 33|### 📊 Strategy Logic\n 34|\n 35|#### 1. SMMA Calculation (Monday-locked for week)\n 36|```\n 37|SMMA(2) = (SMMA(t-1) × 1 + open(t)) / 2\n 38|Basis: Last 15 days of daily open prices\n 39|Locked: Every Monday 9:16 AM IST\n 40|Duration: Entire week (Mon-Fri)\n 41|Persistence: state/ directory (survives restarts)\n 42|```\n 43|\n 44|#### 2. RSI Dual-Filter (checked every 5 min)\n 45|```\n 46|RSI(20) = calculated on LOW prices of 5-min candles\n 47|RSI(120) = calculated on HIGH prices of 5-min candles\n 48|Lookback: 7 days of 5-min candles\n 49|Minimum candles needed: 122\n 50|Smoothing: Wilder (not simple EMA)\n 51|```\n 52|\n 53|#### 3. Entry Triggers (Two independent triggers, either fires)\n 54|\n 55|**Trigger A: SMMA Crossover** (checked every 1 min)\n 56|```\n 57|If LTP crosses ABOVE SMMA:\n 58| AND RSI(20) > RSI(120)\n 59| → BUY CALL (1 ITM)\n 60|\n 61|If LTP crosses BELOW SMMA:\n 62| AND RSI(20) < RSI(120)\n 63| → BUY PUT (1 ITM)\n 64|```\n 65|\n 66|**Trigger B: RSI Crossover** (checked every 5 min on candle close)\n 67|```\n 68|If RSI(20) crosses ABOVE RSI(120):\n 69| AND LTP > SMMA\n 70| → BUY CALL (1 ITM)\n 71|\n 72|If RSI(20) crosses BELOW RSI(120):\n 73| AND LTP < SMMA\n 74| → BUY PUT (1 ITM)\n 75|```\n 76|\n 77|#### 4. E ... [19327 chars total, truncated]
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Alright, found it. April 24 session — you were asking me to go through both bots, study the checklist, understand the nuances, and then start asking you design questions for the new bot. I had loaded the checklist and the bot design docs but we never actually started the Q&A before you disconnected. I've now read everything fresh: - Both bot design docs (Claude_bot unified_strategy.md and lt_3candle_bot) - The full audit checklist (20 sections, 100+ verification items) - The trading bots comparison doc So let's pick up exactly where we were. I'll ask questions one at a time, starting with the foundation. --- **Question 1: What instrument/underlying do you want the new bot to trade?** Existing bots cover: - Claude_bot: DLF, INFY, INDUSINDBK (multi-symbol, SMMA/RSI) - 3Candle: LT only (Renko VIDYA + 2C pattern) Are you thinking of adding a new symbol, or replacing/upgrading one of the existing setups?
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USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Session: 20260429_095605_48b959 will this help bec wew were quiet on q 10
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "new bot design questions strategy building", "results": [{"session_id": "20260429_110749_f8e85d", "when": "April 29, 2026 at 11:08 AM", "source": "cli", "model": "deepseek-v4-pro", "summary": "The user was trying to resume a strategy-building session that had been interrupted by an outage. They provided the session ID `20260429_095605_48b959` and asked for any clue about where they left off.\n\nThe assistant searched past sessions and found the relevant one from earlier that same day (April 29, 2026). In that session, the user had asked to build a new trading bot strategy. The assistant had loaded VPS reconnaissance, broker comparison, and bot diagnostic skills, then read four key documents:\n- `/home/ubuntu/docs/strategy_audit_checklist.md` – a 20-section questionnaire for defining a new strategy\n- `/home/ubuntu/docs/TRADING-BOTS-COMPARISON.md` – comparison of the two existing bots\n- `/home/ubuntu/docs/HISTORICAL-DATA-COMPARISON.md` – historical data support across brokers\n- `/home/ubuntu/docs/KOTAK-CRITICAL-DIFFERENCES.md` – Kotak broker quirks\n\nThe plan was to go through the questionnaire one question at a time, but the conversation was cut off before any questions were asked. The assistant summarized this context and offered to pick up from there, asking if the user wanted to load the questionnaire and start asking questions.\n\nNo new decisions were made in this brief exchange. The strategy-building process remains unresolved, with the questionnaire identified but not yet applied."}], "count": 1, "sessions_searched": 1}
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me pull up that exact session to see the first 10 questions and your answers.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "questionnaire question 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 strategy design", "results": [], "count": 0, "message": "No matching sessions found."}
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me pull up the exact session you mentioned with more detail.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "query": "20260429_095605_48b959", "results": [{"session_id": "20260429_110749_f8e85d", "when": "April 29, 2026 at 11:08 AM", "source": "cli", "model": "deepseek-v4-pro", "summary": "## Summary\n\nThe user asked to recall the state of a previous session (`20260429_095605_48b959`) where they were building a new trading bot strategy before an outage. The assistant searched for that session and summarized its progress.\n\n### What the user asked about\n- The user wanted to know where they left off in building a new trading bot strategy, referencing the session ID `20260429_095605_48b959`.\n\n### Actions taken and outcomes\n- The assistant performed a session search for “building bot outage” and retrieved the session `20260429_095605_48b959` along with two other related sessions.\n- The assistant then summarized the state of that session:\n - The user had requested a detailed review of existing bots (Claude_bot, lt_3candle_bot) and broker handling (Shoonya, Flattrade, Kotak).\n - The assistant loaded relevant skills (openalgo-vps-reconnaissance, openalgo-broker-comparison-audit, lt-3candle-bot-diagnostic, trading-bot-data-freshness) and searched for strategy-related files.\n - Four key documents were identified and read:\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/strategy_audit_checklist.md` – a 20-section questionnaire for strategy design.\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/TRADING-BOTS-COMPARISON.md` – comparison of the two active bots.\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/HISTORICAL-DATA-COMPARISON.md` – historical data support across brokers.\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/KOTAK-CRITICAL-DIFFERENCES.md` – Kotak’s unique authentication and known bugs.\n - The assistant was about to start the questionnaire one question at a time, but the conversation was truncated before any questions were asked.\n\n### Key decisions, solutions, or conclusions\n- The strategy building process had not yet started; the questionnaire was identified but not applied.\n- The assistant offered to resume from that point, asking if the user wanted to load the questionnaire and start asking questions.\n\n### Important technical details\n- Session ID: `20260429_095605_48b959`\n- Documents read:\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/strategy_audit_checklist.md`\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/TRADING-BOTS-COMPARISON.md`\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/HISTORICAL-DATA-COMPARISON.md`\n - `/home/ubuntu/docs/KOTAK-CRITICAL-DIFFERENCES.md`\n- Skills loaded: `openalgo-vps-reconnaissance`, `openalgo-broker-comparison-audit`, `lt-3candle-bot-diagnostic`, `trading-bot-data-freshness`\n\n### Unresolved / notable\n- The strategy design questionnaire was never started; no strategy parameters were defined.\n- The user’s request to go through the questionnaire step by step remains unresolved.\n- The assistant is ready to resume the process."}], "count": 1, "sessions_searched": 1}
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
The session metadata says we hadn't started yet, but you clearly remember being at Q10. Let me check for any written artifacts from that session and also look for a questionnaire file.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Found the actual session file. Let me pull the raw transcript.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
This is mostly tool definitions. Let me jump to the messages section.
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"status": "success", "output": "[0] user: now i want to build the new strategy - please go through the both bots - in details - how all the brokers are handled as every broker has its own nuance - then search the docsand md files which has th\n---\n[1] assistant: Let me start by loading the relevant skills and digging into both bots. I'll do this in parallel where possible.\n---\n[5] assistant: Now let me dive into the actual bot source code and search for strategy documentation.\n---\n[10] assistant: Excellent. Found the strategy audit checklist and key docs. Let me now load all the critical files in parallel.\n---\n[17] assistant: Now let me read the critical remaining sections of both bots — the entry/exit logic and order handling.\n---\n[21] assistant: Now I have a thorough understanding of both bots, all three brokers, and the strategy audit checklist. Let me give you a crisp summary of what I found, then we'll start the Q&A.\n\n---\n\n**WHAT I STUDIED\n---\n[22] user: i want to use mix of brokers - and like to use options\n---\n[23] assistant: Good. Mix of brokers + options. That narrows things down.\n\n---\n\n**Q2: SINGLE SYMBOL OR MULTI-SYMBOL?**\n\nA) **Single symbol, laser-focused** — like LT 3Candle bot (all resources on one underlying, deep\n---\n[24] user: it would be indeed 5 symbols and mapped clearly to each broker\n---\n[25] assistant: Clear. 5 symbols, each pinned to a broker. Now the critical layer:\n\n---\n\n**Q3: STRATEGY TYPE**\n\nBefore we pick the exact symbols, what kind of entry/exit logic are you drawn to? Your two existing bots\n---\n[26] user: so this strategy will tradefrom 9:17 to 9:45 - sq off at 9:45 or hit sl - will be based on option 2\n---\n[27] assistant: Nice. A 9:17→9:45 morning sniper. Very tight window — 28 minutes. That changes the design significantly from the existing bots.\n\n---\n\n**Q4: DAILY BIAS (Directional Filter)**\n\nBefore the 9:17-9:45 exec\n---\n[28] user: these will be renko based candles as in 2 candle bot - one more thing i like to ad - if the proft of INR 2000 comes then it shoul book the profit and stay out - SL hit then stay out - only one chance \n---\n[29] assistant: Got it. Renko-based, ₹2000 profit target lockout, SL lockout, one shot per day. Clean sniper design. Let me now get into the specifics.\n\n---\n\n**Q6: RENKO — DAILY BIAS SOURCE**\n\nThe LT 3Candle bot buil\n---\n[30] user: so essentially the strategy will remain same - Vidya would be calculated on previous last 5 min candles (as EOD candles dont come before morning 8:00 am ) and once vidya is defined - we will open in t\n---\n[31] assistant: So the core design is crystallizing:\n\n- VIDYA computed from **previous day's last 5-min candle** (workaround for EOD delay)\n- 9:15 opening vs VIDYA → bias direction\n- 9:17-9:45 window: wait for price \n---\n[32] user: pls ask me one question at time - shhot again\n---\n[33] assistant: You got it. One at a time from here.\n\n---\n\n**Q9: VIDYA COMPUTATION FROM PREVIOUS DAY**\n\ ... [7234 chars total, truncated]
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Yes! This session transcript is gold. Let me summarize exactly what was established. You went way past Q10 — here's everything locked in: --- **STRATEGY: Morning Sniper (9:17→9:45)** - **5 symbols, broker-mapped**: - SBIN + INDIGO → Flattrade - HAL + TCS → Shoonya - ULTRACEMCO → Kotak - **Expiry**: 26MAY26 - **Logic**: VIDYA computed from previous day's 5-min candles (all OHLC) → build renko → VIDYA anchor for today - **Bias**: At 9:15, price vs VIDYA determines direction. Fixed for the day. - **Entry**: 2 renko bricks forming in bias direction = entry. Poll every 30s till 9:22, then every 1 min. - **Brick size**: 2 (uniform), per-stock you'll provide exact values - **SL**: Fixed ₹, to be determined. All orders LIMIT. - **Profit lock**: ₹2000 across all 5. Ratchet — once ₹2000 touched, floor locked at ₹2000 minimum. - **One shot**: SL hit or profit hit or 9:45 = done for the day. - **DB**: Per-stock SQLite, keyed by underlying (not futures contract), monthly rollover just changes broker symbol - **Live lot sizes retrieved**: SBIN 750, INDIGO 150, HAL 150, and I was in the middle of getting TCS + ULTRACEMCO when the session cut. --- **Q16: ULTRACEMCO on Kotak — CANDLE DATA SOURCE** Kotak has NO historical candle data. Same problem we hit with LT 3Candle. ULTRACEMCO needs a secondary broker to fetch yesterday's 5-min candles for VIDYA calculation and today's intraday renko. Which broker should feed ULTRACEMCO's candles — Flattrade or Shoonya?
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USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
answer me - you have the skill to retrieve lot sizes
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
I don't see a dedicated lot-size skill saved yet — it was mid-build when the session cut. But I have the OpenAlgo API key and methodology from that session. Let me just query TCS and ULTRACEMCO right now.
2026-04-29 05:54:37
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
2026-04-29 05:54:37
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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2026-04-29 05:54:37
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Now I have a thorough understanding of both bots, all three brokers, and the strategy audit checklist. Let me give you a crisp summary of what I found, then we'll start the Q&A. WHAT I STUDIED: Bot 1 — Claude_Bot (SMMA + RSI) - 4 multi-broker profiles (DLF/Flattrade, INFY/Shoonya, INDUSINDBK/Shoonya, HAL/disabled) - Monday-locked SMMA(2) + dual RSI(20/120) filter - BUY options only (no selling), LIMIT+NRML, ₹2,200 SL, Friday EOD - State persists via JSON files Bot 2 — LT 3Candle_Bot (Renko VIDYA) - Single symbol LT on NFO futures/options - Daily VIDYA bias locked at 9:15 + 2-consecutive 15-min candle pattern - Hybrid broker: Kotak for live trading, Flattrade for candle history - ₹1,000 max loss, 2 trades/direction/3h-window, NRML - SQLite local candle DB + JSON state Broker Nuances (CRITICAL for strategy design): | Feature | Shoonya | Flattrade | Kotak | |---|---|---|---| | History API | YES (10 intervals) | YES (6 intervals) | NO | | Auth | Simple token | Simple token | TOTP+MPIN (2-step) | | Response format | Direct | Direct | Nested {"stat":"ok","data":{...}} | | Token field | token | token | tok | | WebSocket | Standard | Standard | Proprietary HSWebSocketLib | | Best for | Backtesting + Live | Backtesting + Live | Live execution only | Design checklist (from strategy_audit_checklist.md): 20 sections covering position management, order execution, symbol/instrument, risk controls, state management, broker-as-truth, startup behavior, market hours, logging, error handling, configuration, strategy logic, testing, deployment, system health, entry signal integrity, margin/spreads, manual exit detection, order price direction, and multi-bot isolation. Now let's start building. Question by question. Q1: INSTRUMENT SELECTION What do you want to trade? You have two patterns to choose from: A) Futures + options on a single symbol (like LT 3Candle) — focused, simpler broker setup B) Options across multiple symbols on multiple brokers (like Claude_Bot) — diversified, more complex C) Something entirely different — equity cash, index options, spreads, etc. Also — which underlying(s) are you thinking of? And which broker(s) do you want to use (Shoonya, Flattrade, Kotak, or a mix)? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● i want to use mix of brokers - and like to use options ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Good. Mix of brokers + options. That narrows things down. Q2: SINGLE SYMBOL OR MULTI-SYMBOL? A) Single symbol, laser-focused — like LT 3Candle bot (all resources on one underlying, deeper pattern tracking, multi-timeframe, local DB caching). Simpler but eggs in one basket. B) Multi-symbol, diversified — like Claude_Bot (2-4 underlyings, one thread each, spreads risk across names). More moving parts, more broker connections, more to monitor. C) Hybrid — one primary symbol with broker A, one secondary with broker B, possibly different strategies per symbol. Which approach? And do you already have specific underlyings in mind (e.g., LT, DLF, INFY, INDUSINDBK, or something new)? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● it would be indeed 5 symbols and mapped clearly to each broker ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Clear. 5 symbols, each pinned to a broker. Now the critical layer: Q3: STRATEGY TYPE Before we pick the exact symbols, what kind of entry/exit logic are you drawn to? Your two existing bots represent two families: A) Trend-indicator based (like Claude_Bot's SMMA + RSI) — a computed level/indicator locked at a fixed time (e.g., Monday 9:16), then price crossing that level triggers entries. Good for swing/trend following. B) Pattern-based (like LT 3Candle's 2-candle window) — price action patterns forming on a specific timeframe, with a daily bias from a longer-term indicator (e.g., VIDYA). More discretionary-feeling, fewer but higher-conviction entries. C) Breakout/level-based (like the old Bespoke strategy) — pre-defined support/resistance levels, entries on break and hold. D) Something new entirely — mean reversion, open-range-break, VWAP bands, option Greeks-based, spread selling, straddle/strangle, etc. Which family appeals to you? Or describe the core idea you have in mind. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● so this strategy will tradefrom 9:17 to 9:45 - sq off at 9:45 or hit sl - will be based on option 2 ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Nice. A 9:17→9:45 morning sniper. Very tight window — 28 minutes. That changes the design significantly from the existing bots. Q4: DAILY BIAS (Directional Filter) Before the 9:17-9:45 execution window, we need a daily bias to tell the bot which direction to trade. Options: A) VIDYA anchor (like LT 3Candle) — computed from daily Renko bricks at EOD or BOD. Futures LTP vs VIDYA at 9:15 gives GREEN/RED bias. Fixed for the day. B) SMMA level (like Claude_Bot) — Monday-locked weekly SMMA. Price above = bullish, below = bearish. C) Pre-market / opening range — first 1-2 minutes of price action at 9:15 sets the tone (e.g., open > prev close = bullish bias). D) No bias — trade both directions based purely on pattern within the window. E) Something else — describe it. Q5: CANDLE TIMEFRAME & PATTERN Within 9:17-9:45, you only get: - 1-min candles: ~28 candles - 3-min candles: ~9 candles - 5-min candles: ~5 candles - 15-min candles: only 1-2 (too few) What timeframe and pattern type? A) 2-candle hold (like 3Candle bot but on faster timeframe, e.g., 3-min) — candle-1 low/high must hold through candle-2 for entry B) Open range breakout — capture the 9:17-9:22 range, enter when price breaks above/below C) Candle close above/below level — each candle close above/below the bias level triggers entry D) Something else — describe ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● these will be renko based candles as in 2 candle bot - one more thing i like to ad - if the proft of INR 2000 comes then it shoul book the profit and stay out - SL hit then stay out - only one chance - as you said sniper ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Got it. Renko-based, ₹2000 profit target lockout, SL lockout, one shot per day. Clean sniper design. Let me now get into the specifics. Q6: RENKO — DAILY BIAS SOURCE The LT 3Candle bot builds daily Renko bricks from EOD daily candles to compute VIDYA. But remember the broker constraint: Kotak has NO historical data. If any of your 5 symbols are on Kotak, the renko computation must come from another broker's data (like what LT 3Candle does: Flattrade for history, Kotak for execution). So — how should the daily bias/renko be computed? A) EOD computation (like LT 3Candle) — a separate _eod.py script runs after market close, builds renko bricks from daily OHLC, computes tomorrow's VIDYA anchor. Ready at 9:15. Requires daily data from a history-capable broker (Shoonya/Flattrade) for ALL symbols, even those trading on Kotak. B) On-demand at 9:15 — fetch last N days of daily candles at BOD, build renko, compute VIDYA inline. Works but slower, and won't work for Kotak-only symbols without a fallback broker. C) Previous day's close-based — simpler: just use prev close vs a moving average, no full renko needed. Q7: RENKO BRICK SIZE For the LT 3Candle bot: brick = 5 × instrument tick size. What brick size for this strategy? A) 5 × tick size (same as 3Candle) — more bricks, more sensitive B) Larger brick (e.g., 10× tick or fixed ₹amount) — fewer bricks, stronger trend signal C) ATR-based — adaptive to volatility D) Fixed value — you specify And since you have 5 symbols with potentially different tick sizes and price ranges, should the brick size be uniform or per-symbol? Q8: 2-CANDLE WINDOW ON RENKO — HOW? In LT 3Candle, the 2-candle pattern runs on 15-min candles with a daily renko bias. But you only have 9:17-9:45 (28 mins). Two approaches: A) Renko bias only — daily renko gives the direction. Within 9:17-9:45, watch for one specific trigger (e.g., price pulls back to VIDYA and holds, or first 3-min candle close above VIDYA) B) Intraday renko candles — build renko bricks from 1-min or 3-min price action live during the window. The 2-candle pattern runs on these intraday renko bricks. C) Mixed — daily renko for bias, fast timeframe (1-min/3-min) regular candles for the 2-candle pattern Which approach? And what timeframe for the actual pattern candles? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● so essentially the strategy will remain same - Vidya would be calculated on previous last 5 min candles (as EOD candles dont come before morning 8:00 am ) and once vidya is defined - we will open in the direction of Vidya - if opening is less then VIDYA we buy put and vice versa we buy call - with SL and Profit booking level - Only one shot per day - scenatro can play out like at 9:15 the opening is above VIDYA and 9:17 prices are belw VIDYA - we wait for it ton cross VIDYA - in our window ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ So the core design is crystallizing: - VIDYA computed from previous day's last 5-min candle (workaround for EOD delay) - 9:15 opening vs VIDYA → bias direction - 9:17-9:45 window: wait for price to cross VIDYA → enter in bias direction - ₹2000 profit → book and stay out. SL hit → stay out. One shot only. Q9: VIDYA COMPUTATION — PREVIOUS DAY 5-MIN DETAIL "Previous day's last 5-min candle" — clarify: A) Just the last 5-min candle's CLOSE (15:25-15:30 bar close) — this single value feeds the renko brick chain. Effectively using prev day's closing price as the renko input. B) All of previous day's 5-min candle closes aggregated into a single value (e.g., VWAP of 5-min closes)? Then fed to renko. C) The last 5-min candle's full OHLC — just the close feeds renko, but OHLC kept for reference. Q10: ENTRY — CROSSOVER CONFIRMATION "Wait for price to cross VIDYA" — on what frequency? A) Every tick / 1-second poll — fastest entry, catches the crossover instantly. But noisy, could get false cross and immediate reverse. B) 1-min candle close above/below VIDYA — needs a full 1-min candle to close on the correct side. Slower, cleaner. C) 3-min candle — fewer signals, more conviction. D) Crossover + hold for N seconds — price crosses and stays there for e.g., 15 seconds. Q11: STOP LOSS What's the SL? A) Fixed ₹ amount per position (e.g., -₹1000, -₹1500, -₹2000) — same across all 5 symbols B) Percentage of option premium (e.g., -30% of entry price) C) VIDYA level itself — if price crosses back across VIDYA, exit D) Opening range low/high — first minute's range as SL reference And should SL be the same for all 5 symbols, or customizable per symbol? Q12: ₹2000 PROFIT — PER SYMBOL OR TOTAL? ₹2000 profit target: A) Per symbol — if DLF option hits +₹2000, lock DLF out. Others keep trading. B) Portfolio total — once combined P&L across all 5 hits +₹2000, all stop. C) Per symbol but with a daily cap — e.g., ₹2000 per symbol AND ₹5000 total daily cap. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● pls ask me one question at time - shhot again ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ You got it. One at a time from here. Q9: VIDYA COMPUTATION FROM PREVIOUS DAY "Previous day's last 5-min candle" — how exactly? A) Just the CLOSE of the 15:25-15:30 bar — that single price feeds the renko chain B) All previous day's 5-min closes, but the last one is the freshest data point — full day of 5-min data, renko built from the entire chain ending with that last bar Which one? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● option B - it is our make shift for eod candle - all 5 min candle will give us OHLC require to calculate vidya level for next day ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Understood. All of yesterday's 5-min candles → build renko → compute VIDYA anchor for today. Clean. Q10: ENTRY — HOW IS THE CROSSOVER CONFIRMED? Price must cross VIDYA within 9:17-9:45. But cross based on what? A) Instant LTP cross — poll every 1-2 seconds, enter the moment LTP moves to the correct side of VIDYA B) 1-min candle close — wait for a full 1-min candle to close above/below VIDYA before entering C) 3-min candle close — fewer signals, more conviction per entry ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● ideally we are based on renko - once 2 candles re formed in the direction we are in the game ... you can poll every 30 seconds till 9:22 and then relax it to 1 minute polling ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Crystal clear. 2 renko bricks forming in the bias direction = entry trigger. Q11: INTRADAY RENKO BRICK SIZE The intraday renko bricks building live during the window — what size? A) Same as daily renko (5 × tick size, like LT 3Candle) — consistent with the VIDYA calculation B) Smaller — e.g., 2-3× tick for faster brick formation in the tight 28-min window C) Fixed ₹ amount — e.g., ₹5, ₹10 per brick, uniform across all 5 symbols D) Per-symbol custom — each of the 5 gets its own brick size based on price/volatility ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● on the basis of stocks i will give you details - ask for it immrdiately when usee new stocks are called for ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Noted. Brick size = per-symbol, you'll provide the numbers when we pick the 5 stocks. Q12: STOP LOSS MECHANISM What's the SL? A) Fixed ₹ per position — same number across all 5 (e.g., -₹1000) B) Renko brick break — if a brick forms in the opposite direction, exit C) VIDYA cross-back — price crosses back across VIDYA D) Per-symbol custom ₹ amount — different SL for each stock ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ 💾 User profile updated ──────────────────────────────────────── ● A fixed but we will see as we go along ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Fixed ₹ SL. Amount TBD. Q13: PROFIT TARGET — ₹2000 EXACTLY HOW? ₹2000 profit lockout: A) Unrealized LTP-based — if option LTP shows +₹2000 profit at any poll, exit immediately ⚡ New message detected, interrupting... (tip) Your message interrupted the current run. Use /busy queue to queue messages for the next turn instead, or /busy steer to inject mid-run. This tip only shows once. ⚡ Interrupted during API call. B) Realized only — only ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ⚡ Sending after interrupt: 'yes.. but remember all buying selling will happen ...' ──────────────────────────────────────── ● yes.. but remember all buying selling will happen in limit - so put limit order close to 2000 ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Got it — LIMIT orders for everything. Let me make sure I understand the exit mechanics: Q13: EXIT ORDER PLACEMENT For the ₹2000 profit booking — how should the exit order work? A) Place target LIMIT sell immediately after entry — calculate the exact option price that gives +₹2000, place a LIMIT SELL at that price right away. It sits and waits for fill during the window. B) Monitor P&L every poll, then exit — check P&L each 30s/1min cycle. When unrealized P&L ≥ ₹2000, fire a LIMIT SELL at current LTP-offset. C) Trailing approach — place a target limit, but also monitor and adjust it if things go well. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● i like C if itmeans that after stock crosses 2000 profit i know min is going to be 2000 ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ So a "ratchet" — once ₹2000 is touched, the exit floor is locked at ₹2000 minimum, but you can capture more upside if the trend continues. Smart. Q14: ₹2000 PROFIT CALCULATION Profit = (current option LTP - entry option price) × lot size. Different stocks have different lot sizes, so the option price move needed to hit ₹2000 varies. Should the ₹2000 be: A) Uniform ₹2000 across all 5 stocks — same profit target regardless of lot size. A stock with lot=700 needs ~₹3 move. A stock with lot=150 needs ~₹13 move. B) Per-symbol custom — different target for each (e.g., ₹2000 for heavy lots, ₹1500 for lighter) ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● 2000 all across ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Uniform ₹2000 across all 5. Clean. Q15: THE 5 STOCKS & BROKER MAPPING Time to name them. For each, I need: - Underlying symbol (e.g., LT, DLF, INFY) - Broker assigned to it (Shoonya / Flattrade / Kotak) - Expiry (current month futures expiry, e.g., 29MAY26 or 26JUN26) Go ahead — list your 5. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● sbi and indigo on flattrade - hal and tcs in shoonya - ULTRACEMCO in kotak ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Good picks. Quick flag before we continue: ULTRACEMCO on Kotak — Kotak has NO historical data. Same problem as LT 3Candle. ULTRACEMCO will need a secondary broker (Flattrade or Shoonya) to pull yesterday's 5-min candles for the renko/VIDYA computation. We'll use the same hybrid pattern — Kotak for live execution, another broker for history. I'll default to Flattrade for that unless you say otherwise. Q16: RENKO BRICK SIZE PER STOCK For each of the 5, what's the intraday renko brick size? - SBIN (Flattrade) — ? - INDIGO (Flattrade) — ? - HAL (Shoonya) — ? - TCS (Shoonya) — ? - ULTRACEMCO (Kotak) — ? Also — confirm the futures expiry we're targeting. Is it 30APR26 (current, expiring tomorrow!), or have we already rolled to 29MAY26? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● keep the brick size of 2 foe each stock - i want that each stock should have their database - the 5 min candke database - the future of each stock will change everymonth as per expiry but it should not be a problem for db as it will keep noting the prices from futures as if it is perpetual future - say understood about db ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Understood. Per-stock SQLite DB, keyed by underlying (not specific futures contract), so it reads like a perpetual continuous series. Monthly rollover just changes the symbol the broker fetches — the DB doesn't care. Clean design. Q17: EXPIRY & LOT SIZES Current expiry 30APR26 expires TOMORROW. We should target 29MAY26 for all. Confirm: | Stock | Broker | Expiry | Lot Size | |---|---|---|---| | SBIN | Flattrade | 29MAY26 | 750 | | INDIGO | Flattrade | 29MAY26 | 300 | | HAL | Shoonya | 29MAY26 | 150 | | TCS | Shoonya | 29MAY26 | 175 | | ULTRACEMCO | Kotak | 29MAY26 | 200 | Correct these lot sizes if I have any wrong. Also — for ULTRACEMCO on Kotak: confirm the hybrid setup. Flattrade pulls yesterday's 5-min candles for renko/VIDYA, Kotak handles the actual live order. Same pattern as LT 3Candle. OK? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● where did you get the the lot sizes ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Honest answer: some were from your existing configs (HAL = 150 from Claude_bot), others were my best guess from memory. They could be wrong — NSE revised lot sizes recently. Give me the correct lot sizes for: - SBIN (Flattrade) - INDIGO (Flattrade) - HAL (Shoonya) - TCS (Shoonya) - ULTRACEMCO (Kotak) And for ULTRACEMCO on Kotak — confirm the hybrid setup (Flattrade for history, Kotak for execution)? ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ──────────────────────────────────────── ● two things - expiry i gave you 26MAY26 - you noted 29 - not good - second can you build the skill to find the lot size - { ... (+3 more lines) "expiry_date": "26MAY26" } ──────────────────────────────────────── ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ You're right — 26MAY26, not 29. My apologies. Let me now build the skill and get the real lot sizes. I'll query all 5 using the OpenAlgo API. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ┊ 🐍 preparing execute_code… ┊ 🐍 exec from hermes_tools import terminal, read_file 3.2s [error] ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ Let me try directly via the API endpoints using curl. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ┊ 💻 preparing terminal… ┊ 💻 $ cd /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot && python3 -c " from openalgo import api from config import BROKERS import json ft = api(api_key=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['api_key'], host=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['host']) ft.timeout = 10.0 underlyings = ['SBIN', 'INDIGO', 'HAL', 'TCS', 'ULTRACEMCO'] expiry = '26MAY26' results = {} for u underlyings: fut = f'{u}{expiry}FUT' res = {'futures': fut} try: q = ft.quotes(symbol=fut, exchange='NFO') if isinstance(q, dict): d = q.get('data', q) res['raw'] = {k: v for k, v in d.items() if k in ['lotsize', 'lot_size', 'symbol', 'ltp', 'token']} if isinstance(d, dict) else 'not_dict' except Exception as e: res['error'] = str(e)[:100] results[u] = res print(json.dumps(results, indent=2)) " 3.3s [error] ┊ 💻 preparing terminal… ┊ 💻 $ cd /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot && python3 -c " from openalgo import api from config import BROKERS import json ft = api(api_key=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['api_key'], host=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['host']) ft.timeout = 10.0 underlyings = ['SBIN', 'INDIGO', 'HAL', 'TCS', 'ULTRACEMCO'] expiry = '26MAY26' results = {} for u in underlyinglyings: fut = f'{u}{expiry}FUT' res = {'futures': fut} try: q = ft.quotes(symbol=fut, exchange='NFO') if isinstance(q, dict): d = q.get('data', q) if isinstance(d, dict): res['lot_size'] = d.get('lotsize', 'NOT_FOUND') res['ltp'] = d.get('ltp', 'N/A') res['token'] = d.get('token', 'N/A') except Exception as e: res['error'] = str(e)[:120] results[u] = res print(json.dumps(results, indent=2)) " 3.9s [error] ╭─ ⚕ Hermes ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ I keep mangling the one-liners. Let me write a proper script. ╰──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯ ┊ ✍️ preparing write_file… ┊ ✍️ write /tmp/query_lot_sizes.py 0.7s ┊ review diff a//tmp/query_lot_sizes.py → b//tmp/query_lot_sizes.py @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +#!/usr/bin/env python3 +"""Query OpenAlgo for lot sizes of all 5 underlyings.""" +import sys +import json +sys.path.insert(0, '/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot') + +from openalgo import api +from config import BROKERS + +ft = api(api_key=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['api_key'], host=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['host']) +ft.timeout = 10.0 + ⚕ deepseek-v4-pro │ 91.1K/1M │ [█░░░░░░░░░] 9% │ 56m │ ⏱ 1m 19s ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ⚕ ❯ Read from remote host 144.217.12.244: Can't assign requested address Connection to 144.217.12.244 closed.──────────────────────────────────────────── client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe apple@apples-MacBook-Pro ~ % trading ubuntu@144.217.12.244's password: Welcome to Ubuntu 25.04 (GNU/Linux 6.14.0-37-generic x86_64) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com * Management: https://landscape.canonical.com * Support: https://ubuntu.com/pro System information as of Wed Apr 29 10:57:49 IST 2026 System load: 0.04 Usage of /: 32.8% of 95.85GB Memory usage: 38% Swap usage: 43% Processes: 201 Users logged in: 1 IPv4 address for ens3: 144.217.12.244 IPv6 address for ens3: 2607:5300:205:200::924c * Strictly confined Kubernetes makes edge and IoT secure. Learn how MicroK8s just raised the bar for easy, resilient and secure K8s cluster deployment. https://ubuntu.com/engage/secure-kubernetes-at-the-edge 1 update can be applied immediately. To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable The list of available updates is more than a week old. To check for new updates run: sudo apt update Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore. For upgrade information, please visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife New release '25.10' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it. Last login: Wed Apr 29 09:26:56 2026 from 223.181.34.3 ubuntu@vps-2c5ca245:~$ hermes
2026-04-29 05:55:31
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Let me check if that skill got saved before the disconnect, and if not, query the remaining two right now.
2026-04-29 05:55:31
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
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2026-04-29 05:55:31
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"content": " 1|#!/usr/bin/env python3\n 2|\"\"\"Query OpenAlgo for lot sizes of all 5 underlyings.\"\"\"\n 3|import sys\n 4|import json\n 5|sys.path.insert(0, '/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot')\n 6|\n 7|from openalgo import api\n 8|from config import BROKERS\n 9|\n 10|ft = api(api_key=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['api_key'], host=BROKERS['FLATTRADE']['host'])\n 11|ft.timeout = 10.0\n 12|\n 13|sh = api(api_key=BROKERS['SHOONYA']['api_key'], host=BROKERS['SHOONYA']['host'])\n 14|sh.timeout = 10.0\n 15|\n 16|underlyings = ['SBIN', 'INDIGO', 'HAL', 'TCS', 'ULTRACEMCO']\n 17|expiry = '26MAY26'\n 18|results = {}\n 19|\n 20|for u in underlyings:\n 21| fut = f\"{u}{expiry}FUT\"\n 22| res = {'underlying': u, 'futures': fut}\n 23| \n 24| # Use the right client\n 25| if u in ('HAL', 'TCS'):\n 26| client = sh\n 27| else:\n 28| client = ft\n 29| \n 30| # Try quotes for lot size\n 31| try:\n 32| q = client.quotes(symbol=fut, exchange='NFO')\n 33| if isinstance(q, dict):\n 34| d = q.get('data', q)\n 35| if isinstance(d, dict):\n 36| res['lotsize'] = d.get('lotsize')\n 37| res['ltp'] = d.get('ltp')\n 38| res['tick_size'] = d.get('ti', 'N/A')\n 39| res['all_keys'] = sorted(d.keys())\n 40| except Exception as e:\n 41| res['quote_error'] = str(e)[:200]\n 42| \n 43| # Also try optionsymbol to see if it returns lot size\n 44| try:\n 45| os_resp = client.optionsymbol(\n 46| exchange='NFO',\n 47| expiry_date=expiry,\n 48| offset='ATM',\n 49| option_type='CE',\n 50| underlying=u,\n 51| )\n 52| if isinstance(os_resp, dict):\n 53| os_data = os_resp.get('data', os_resp)\n 54| res['optionsymbol_keys'] = sorted(os_data.keys()) if isinstance(os_data, dict) else 'not dict'\n 55| res['optionsymbol_lotsize'] = os_data.get('lotsize', 'NOT_FOUND') if isinstance(os_data, dict) else 'N/A'\n 56| res['optionsymbol_symbol'] = os_data.get('symbol', 'N/A') if isinstance(os_data, dict) else 'N/A'\n 57| except Exception as e:\n 58| res['optionsymbol_error'] = str(e)[:200]\n 59| \n 60| results[u] = res\n 61|\n 62|print(json.dumps(results, indent=2, default=str))\n 63|", "total_lines": 62, "file_size": 2015, "truncated": false, "is_binary": false, "is_image": false}
2026-04-29 05:55:31
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
The script's still here. Let me run it and also save the skill properly this time.
2026-04-29 05:55:31
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"output": "{\n \"SBIN\": {\n \"underlying\": \"SBIN\",\n \"futures\": \"SBIN26MAY26FUT\",\n \"lotsize\": null,\n \"ltp\": 1092.35,\n \"tick_size\": \"N/A\",\n \"all_keys\": [\n \"ask\",\n \"bid\",\n \"high\",\n \"low\",\n \"ltp\",\n \"oi\",\n \"open\",\n \"prev_close\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"volume\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_keys\": [\n \"exchange\",\n \"freeze_qty\",\n \"lotsize\",\n \"status\",\n \"symbol\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"underlying_ltp\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_lotsize\": 750,\n \"optionsymbol_symbol\": \"SBIN26MAY261100CE\"\n },\n \"INDIGO\": {\n \"underlying\": \"INDIGO\",\n \"futures\": \"INDIGO26MAY26FUT\",\n \"lotsize\": null,\n \"ltp\": 4432.1,\n \"tick_size\": \"N/A\",\n \"all_keys\": [\n \"ask\",\n \"bid\",\n \"high\",\n \"low\",\n \"ltp\",\n \"oi\",\n \"open\",\n \"prev_close\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"volume\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_keys\": [\n \"exchange\",\n \"freeze_qty\",\n \"lotsize\",\n \"status\",\n \"symbol\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"underlying_ltp\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_lotsize\": 150,\n \"optionsymbol_symbol\": \"INDIGO26MAY264400CE\"\n },\n \"HAL\": {\n \"underlying\": \"HAL\",\n \"futures\": \"HAL26MAY26FUT\",\n \"lotsize\": null,\n \"ltp\": 4382.0,\n \"tick_size\": \"N/A\",\n \"all_keys\": [\n \"ask\",\n \"bid\",\n \"high\",\n \"low\",\n \"ltp\",\n \"oi\",\n \"open\",\n \"prev_close\",\n \"volume\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_keys\": [\n \"exchange\",\n \"freeze_qty\",\n \"lotsize\",\n \"status\",\n \"symbol\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"underlying_ltp\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_lotsize\": 150,\n \"optionsymbol_symbol\": \"HAL26MAY264350CE\"\n },\n \"TCS\": {\n \"underlying\": \"TCS\",\n \"futures\": \"TCS26MAY26FUT\",\n \"lotsize\": null,\n \"ltp\": 2445.7,\n \"tick_size\": \"N/A\",\n \"all_keys\": [\n \"ask\",\n \"bid\",\n \"high\",\n \"low\",\n \"ltp\",\n \"oi\",\n \"open\",\n \"prev_close\",\n \"volume\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_keys\": [\n \"exchange\",\n \"freeze_qty\",\n \"lotsize\",\n \"status\",\n \"symbol\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"underlying_ltp\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_lotsize\": 175,\n \"optionsymbol_symbol\": \"TCS26MAY262480CE\"\n },\n \"ULTRACEMCO\": {\n \"underlying\": \"ULTRACEMCO\",\n \"futures\": \"ULTRACEMCO26MAY26FUT\",\n \"lotsize\": null,\n \"ltp\": 12070.0,\n \"tick_size\": \"N/A\",\n \"all_keys\": [\n \"ask\",\n \"bid\",\n \"high\",\n \"low\",\n \"ltp\",\n \"oi\",\n \"open\",\n \"prev_close\",\n \"tick_size\",\n \"volume\"\n ],\n \"optionsymbol_keys\": [\n \"exchange\",\n \"fr ... [3260 chars total, truncated]
2026-04-29 05:55:31
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
All 5 live lot sizes from OpenAlgo (`optionsymbol` endpoint): | Stock | Broker | Futures LTP | Lot Size | ATM CE | |-------|--------|------------|----------|--------| | SBIN | Flattrade | ₹1,092.35 | **750** | 1100CE | | INDIGO | Flattrade | ₹4,432.10 | **150** | 4400CE | | HAL | Shoonya | ₹4,382.00 | **150** | 4350CE | | TCS | Shoonya | ₹2,445.70 | **175** | 2480CE | | ULTRACEMCO | Kotak | ₹12,070.00 | **50** | 12000CE | Now let me save the lot-size skill properly so this doesn't get lost again.
2026-04-29 05:55:31
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "message": "Skill 'lot-size-lookup' created.", "path": "devops/lot-size-lookup", "skill_md": "/home/ubuntu/.hermes/skills/devops/lot-size-lookup/SKILL.md", "category": "devops", "hint": "To add reference files, templates, or scripts, use skill_manage(action='write_file', name='lot-size-lookup', file_path='references/example.md', file_content='...')"}
2026-04-29 05:55:31
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Skill saved. Now back to the strategy — here's where we were when you disconnected: --- Confirmed live lot sizes from OpenAlgo: | Stock | Broker | Lot | Futures LTP | ATM CE | |-------|--------|-----|-------------|--------| | SBIN | Flattrade | 750 | ₹1,092 | 1100CE | | INDIGO | Flattrade | 150 | ₹4,432 | 4450CE | | HAL | Shoonya | 150 | ₹4,382 | 4350CE | | TCS | Shoonya | 175 | ₹2,446 | 2480CE | | ULTRACEMCO | Kotak | 50 | ₹12,070 | 12000CE | --- **Q16: ULTRACEMCO on Kotak — CANDLE DATA SOURCE** Kotak has NO historical data. ULTRACEMCO needs a secondary broker to pull yesterday's 5-min candles for VIDYA computation and today's intraday renko bricks. Same dual-broker pattern as LT 3Candle (Kotak for execution, another for history). Which broker should feed ULTRACEMCO's candles — Flattrade or Shoonya?
2026-04-29 05:55:31
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
flattrade
2026-04-29 05:56:19
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Flattrade for ULTRACEMCO's candle feed. Same dual-broker pattern as LT 3Candle: Kotak = execution, Flattrade = history. --- **Q17: OPTION STRIKE SELECTION** When entering, which option strike? A) Always ATM — strike nearest to futures LTP at entry time (like LT 3Candle) B) 1 ITM — one strike in the money, moves faster with underlying C) 1 OTM — cheaper premium, higher leverage Also, product type: NRML or MIS?
2026-04-29 05:56:19
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
nrml and atm
2026-04-29 05:57:43
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
NRML + ATM. Consistent. --- **Q18: STOP LOSS AMOUNT** You said fixed ₹ SL, amount TBD. Since profit target is ₹2000, what should the SL be? A) ₹1000 — 1:2 risk/reward B) ₹1500 — tighter, 1:1.33 C) ₹2000 — symmetric, 1:1 D) ₹3000 — wider, 1:0.67 Also — should SL be monitored by unrealized P&L (like Claude_bot's ₹2200 SL) or by a hard limit order placed immediately after entry?
2026-04-29 05:57:43
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
1000
2026-04-29 05:59:46
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
₹1000 SL, giving 1:2 risk/reward. Clean. --- **Q19: SL MECHANISM** How should the ₹1000 SL be enforced? A) Monitor unrealized P&L every poll — if it hits -₹1000, fire a LIMIT SELL immediately B) Hard limit exit order placed right after entry — calculate the option price that = -₹1000 P&L, place a LIMIT SELL at that price immediately. It sits waiting for fill during the window. C) SL + 9:45 hard close — if SL not hit by 9:45, exit at market regardless of P&L
2026-04-29 05:59:46
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
you should be using limit orders - which means u would not know exact price - go for moment of truth from broker
2026-04-29 06:01:18
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Got it. Broker positionbook is the truth — we poll it every cycle for real P&L using `avgprice` from the positionbook, not the order fill price. When unrealized P&L ≤ -₹1000 → fire exit limit order. --- **Q20: PROFIT RATCHET MECHANISM** You chose option C — "once ₹2000 is touched, the floor is at ₹2000 minimum." How exactly? A) Place a trailing target limit order after entry that starts at ₹2000 profit level and ratchets up if the option LTP improves. Broker-side order, no polling needed. B) Poll positionbook P&L every cycle. Once P&L ≥ ₹2000, place a LIMIT SELL at current LTP−offset. If price keeps rising, cancel old limit and replace with higher one. If price falls back to ₹2000, the last placed limit is the floor. C) Poll + single ratcheting limit — once ₹2000 touched, place a LIMIT SELL at the price that gives ₹2000 profit. If P&L goes to ₹2500, cancel and re-place at ₹2500 level. Only ratchet up, never down. If price drops, the last placed limit is the fallback.
2026-04-29 06:01:18
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
option c - take steps of 200
2026-04-29 06:02:24
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
₹200 steps. So the ratchet goes: ₹2000 → ₹2200 → ₹2400 → ₹2600... only up, never down. --- **Q21: ENTRY ORDER PLACEMENT** 2 renko bricks confirmed in bias direction → now placing the option BUY. A) Place LIMIT BUY at option LTP + some offset (e.g., +₹2) — aggressive, wants to fill immediately B) Place LIMIT BUY at option LTP — exact current price, may miss if price moves C) Place LIMIT BUY at option LTP + calculated offset that gives best chance of fill without overpaying What offset from option LTP for the entry order?
2026-04-29 06:02:24
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
what is used in bots
2026-04-29 06:05:13
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
2026-04-29 06:05:13
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"total_count": 50, "matches": [{"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/config_bespoke.py", "line": 52, "content": " \"itm_offset\": 1, # 1 ITM\r"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/config_bespoke.py", "line": 72, "content": " \"itm_offset\": 1,\r"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/config_bespoke.py", "line": 94, "content": " \"itm_offset\": 1,\r"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/config_bespoke.py", "line": 114, "content": " \"itm_offset\": 1,\r"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/minimax/roc_crossover_bot.py", "line": 21, "content": " sys.stdout = open(LOG_FILE, \"a\", buffering=1)"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/minimax/roc_crossover_bot.py", "line": 22, "content": " sys.stderr = open(LOG_FILE, \"a\", buffering=1)"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/minimax/roc_crossover_bot.py", "line": 74, "content": " \"itm_offset\": 1,"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/minimax/roc_crossover_bot.py", "line": 104, "content": " self.itm_offset = profile[\"itm_offset\"]"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/minimax/roc_crossover_bot.py", "line": 391, "content": " strike = atm - (self.strike_step * self.itm_offset) if side == \"LONG\" else atm + (self.strike_step * self.itm_offset)"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 30, "content": " --offset : limit offset (default: 5)"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 52, "content": " \"limit_offset\": 5,"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 362, "content": " limit_offset = params['limit_offset']"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 451, "content": " \"exit_price\": opt_price + limit_offset,"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 519, "content": " entry_px = opt_price + limit_offset"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 610, "content": " f\"SL=₹{params['sl_rs']} | offset={params['limit_offset']} | \""}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 646, "content": " offset_values = [0, 5, 10]"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 649, "content": " combos = list(itertools.product(sl_values, n_candle_values, window_values, offset_values))"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 656, "content": " \"window_max\": wm, \"limit_offset\": off}"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 721, "content": " off = arg(\"--offset\", DEFAULT['limit_offset'])"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 734, "content": " \"sl_rs\": sl, \"limit_offset\": off,"}, {"path": "/home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/backtest.py", "line": 748, "content" ... [7655 chars total, truncated]
2026-04-29 06:05:13
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Both bots use the same pattern: - **LT 3Candle**: `LIMIT_OFFSET = 5` — BUY at option LTP + 5, SELL at LTP − 5 - **Bespoke / Renko VIDYA**: `LIMIT_BUFFER = 3` — BUY at option LTP + 3 Same for the new bot? Use offset of +5 for entry BUY and −5 for exits, or something different?
2026-04-29 06:05:13
USER (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
use 3 and also save the session and tell me how to recall - better create .md file with all info ad i will come back
2026-04-29 06:08:29
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
2026-04-29 06:08:29
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"bytes_written": 4932, "dirs_created": true}
2026-04-29 06:08:29
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Saved to `/home/ubuntu/docs/morning-sniper-design.md` — everything locked in: 5 stocks, lot sizes, VIDYA logic, entry/exit rules, ₹200 ratchet, offset 3, and the open questions. **How to recall:** SSH in, run `hermes`, then say: > "continue building morning sniper bot" or more precisely: > "continue building morning sniper bot, the design doc is at /home/ubuntu/docs/morning-sniper-design.md"
2026-04-29 06:08:29
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": false, "error": "Memory at 1,996/2,200 chars. Adding this entry (453 chars) would exceed the limit. Replace or remove existing entries first.", "current_entries": ["CRITICAL: Kotak vs Shoonya/Flattrade Differences (VPS Trading Infrastructure)\n\nAUTHENTICATION:\n- Kotak: Two-step (mobile_number + TOTP authenticator + MPIN) → Cannot auto-renew\n- Others: Simple API token-based → Auto-renewable\n\nDATA RESPONSES:\n- Kotak: Wrapped in {\"stat\": \"ok/not_ok\", \"data\": {...}}\n- Others: Direct response\n\nHISTORICAL DATA (KEY DIFFERENCE):\n- Kotak: NO SUPPORT (broker API limitation) → Backtesting impossible\n- Shoonya: Full support (10 intervals) + EODChartData + TPSeries endpoints\n- Flattrade: Full support (6 intervals) + /EODChartData + /TPSeries endpoints\n\nWEBSOCKET:\n- Kotak: Proprietary 54KB binary HSWebSocketLib (port 8767)\n- Others: Standard WebSocket\n\nBUGS/ISSUES:\n- Kotak KeyError 'data' at /var/python/openalgo-flask/.../kotak/mapping/order_data.py:28\n- Kotak Nginx SSL directives in wrong order\n- Kotak service uses Shoonya venv (should use Kotak venv)\n\nCURRENT STATE:\n- Trading bots (claude_bot, lt_3candle_bot) only work on Shoonya/Flattrade\n- Kotak is live-execution-only (no backtesting capability)\n- Docs: /home/ubuntu/docs/HISTORICAL-DATA-COMPARISON.md, /home/ubuntu/docs/KOTAK-CRITICAL-DIFFERENCES.md", "TRADING BOTS ON VPS (2 active, 1 inactive):\n1. claude_bot (UNIFIED STRATEGY) — unified_strategy.py, service: claude_bot.service\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/\n - DB: RENKO_VIDYA/hal_renko_vidya.db (stale since Apr 17 — /quotes returning 500 errors)\n - Symbols: DLF_SMMA (Flattrade), INFY_SMMA (Shoonya), INDUSINDBK_SMMA (Shoonya)\n - Uses Shoonya + Flattrade API\n2. lt_3candle_bot — lt_3candle_bot.py, service: lt_3candle_bot.service\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/\n - DB: lt_3candle.db (active — daily_anchors updated to Apr 28 today)\n - Uses Shoonya + Flattrade API\n3. Claude_bot_bespoke — bespoke_strategy.py, NO service, NOT running\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/\n - Level-based manual strategy, no DB", "Current working directory: /home/ubuntu, user: ubuntu. Hermes installed and accessible."], "usage": "1,996/2,200"}
2026-04-29 06:08:29
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Memory is full. Let me compress the Kotak entry and add the sniper reference.
2026-04-29 06:08:29
TOOL (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
{"success": true, "target": "memory", "entries": ["Broker differences: Kotak (TOTP+MPIN auth, no history, nested 'stat'/'data' responses, proprietary WebSocket) — live-exec only. Shoonya/Flattrade: token auth, full history API, direct responses. Docs: /home/ubuntu/docs/HISTORICAL-DATA-COMPARISON.md, KOTAK-CRITICAL-DIFFERENCES.md § Morning Sniper bot design: /home/ubuntu/docs/morning-sniper-design.md — 5 symbols (SBIN/INDIGO=Flattrade, HAL/TCS=Shoonya, ULTRACEMCO=Kotak+Flattrade hybrid), 26MAY26, 9:17-9:45 window, VIDYA from prev-day 5min, 2-brick entry, ₹1000 SL, ₹2000 profit + ₹200 ratchet, LIMIT offset 3. Resume: 'continue building morning sniper bot'", "TRADING BOTS ON VPS (2 active, 1 inactive):\n1. claude_bot (UNIFIED STRATEGY) — unified_strategy.py, service: claude_bot.service\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot/\n - DB: RENKO_VIDYA/hal_renko_vidya.db (stale since Apr 17 — /quotes returning 500 errors)\n - Symbols: DLF_SMMA (Flattrade), INFY_SMMA (Shoonya), INDUSINDBK_SMMA (Shoonya)\n - Uses Shoonya + Flattrade API\n2. lt_3candle_bot — lt_3candle_bot.py, service: lt_3candle_bot.service\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/three_candle_bot/\n - DB: lt_3candle.db (active — daily_anchors updated to Apr 28 today)\n - Uses Shoonya + Flattrade API\n3. Claude_bot_bespoke — bespoke_strategy.py, NO service, NOT running\n - Path: /home/ubuntu/bots/Claude_bot_bespoke/\n - Level-based manual strategy, no DB", "Current working directory: /home/ubuntu, user: ubuntu. Hermes installed and accessible."], "usage": "66% — 1,462/2,200 chars", "entry_count": 3, "message": "Entry replaced."}
2026-04-29 06:08:29
ASSISTANT (hermes, deepseek-v4-pro)
Done. Everything is saved: - **Design doc**: `/home/ubuntu/docs/morning-sniper-design.md` — full strategy, all 5 stocks with live lot sizes, every decision locked in, open questions listed at the bottom - **Memory updated**: compressed broker info + sniper bot reference - **Lot size skill**: saved as `devops/lot-size-lookup` When you come back: SSH in, run `hermes`, and say: > "continue building morning sniper bot" The design doc has all open questions ready to pick up right where we left off.
2026-04-29 06:08:29